This Tiny AI Box Watches You Work and Does the Busywork Transcript, AI Summary & Key Points

00:00 It's just enabling me to do a lot more that I would never have had time to do. So, my eight hour workday still looks like an eight hour workday, but I'm getting 16 or 30 hours worth of work done because of all these agents I have running for me. The cost for building this has gone to basically zero is working on the task already on the background before me prompting anything.

00:20 Prepares your work before you actually open your laptop and finish the work that you have left even during the night. People are not exposed to this type of technology yet. >> That's amazing. I can't believe the future that we're already living in. They say that the future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed. And that's what this feels like to me.

00:38 >> This is this memory. And a lot of things are not discussed between me and the agent, but captured while it's watching what's going on on my screen. Your screen, your raw image, your video is never shared to the cloud. So, you don't have to worry about your privacy. How would you explain Violoop to someone that has never used an AI product before?

01:02 >> I would describe Valoop as somebody actually working next to you. What does it mean that you can imagine it's a partner uh it's an internship uh is a relationship that we have with somebody who is just sitting next to me doing things together with me. And I think that's the best way to put Valoop. And what do I mean by that is that valoop has the capabilities to uh see what's on your screen, what's going on, what you working on and also be part of uh that journey.

01:31 While loop can see uh something that's just happened and react upon for you uh under your control. So I think this is the first time that uh we have given AI this type of capabilities. Of course, AI were able to see screenshots, analyze that. Uh, but it was never in a video form. Imagine what we have, what AI sees us. Uh, I think couple years ago, I think AI sees us in blogs that we write a bunch of text and we send to AI and they that's how they learn to interact with us.

02:04 And I think in the past couple years AI see us as Instagrams that sometimes I get a screenshot then I get some captions or now I see who the user is and what they what they working on. And right now with Val, we are providing AI with like a YouTube live experience >> that the agent is working next to you and watching a live which is what you're doing on your computer and see where is good fit for V loop to jump in and help you at that certain moment.

02:38 >> Okay. So the first thing I thought of when you answered that is Mr. Beast because I don't know if you know this but when Mr. Beast hires a new employee or a new key employee. He does something very unique which honestly shouldn't be that unique and has them mirror him, follow him, stalk him, live with him, eat with him, sleep in the bed next to his for months, right?

03:00 That's what he does because he's trying to scale himself. He's trying to get his brain, how he thinks, how he talks, how he reacts, how he acts in someone else's person. and wow, multiple people ideally. And he he's just got married, but until, you know, just recently he wasn't married. He had no kids. He works 100 hours a week. And so he always has someone by his side watching everything he does.

03:25 And most people hear that and they're like, that's crazy. Who would do that? But Mr. Beast is like, I want to be the best entertainer in the world that ever has been. So this is what it takes. So when you answered that question, what is Violoop? That's what I thought of because it's it's less intrusive than that, but just as as effective. It's an AI piece of hardware that watches that watches everything you do and lives with you and you can turn it off at any time or give only give it so many permissions if you think

03:48 it's too much. Is that accurate? >> I think that is very accurate and I never heard about I know Mr. Best I had to admire him. He's a very like very great content creator but I never heard about that. But I think what you describe is exactly what Maloop is doing. It's like giving AI the first shotgun seat sitting next to you and be on top of everything with you at the same time.

04:10 Yeah. The next thing I wanted to say was you use an Instagram comparison, right? >> Yes. >> So it's like Chad GBT of 2024 was like Facebook in 2006. You had a wall, you had a feed, text, sometimes pictures, and as far as context goes, the world gets a very, very, very tiny peak into your life because you're only posting the best of the best in certain things.

04:35 >> But now you're saying Violoop makes it more like Instagram, Instagram stories. What am I doing right now? Stories to my close friends. What am I doing that I only want my close friends to see? Pictures, videos, DMs, everything. As much context as you want to give it, contrasted to, you know, what Facebook was 20 something years ago. Very cool. Now, if someone is trying to start a business with very little money, how can Violoop help with that?

05:00 At the very beginning, Val loop can be a very good think partner because Val loop actually sees what you're browsing on a daily basis. It has the context system built around you and uh being a thinking partner, you can just uh that person can just talk to Valoop and find out what is the thing or the couple things that the user is most passionate about because I don't believe people just grinding for to make money.

05:26 and believe people tracing their dreams and money cups that's a bad product and so finding what their interest is at and fulfilling knowledge gaps on certain areas that's one very important fundamental things that val can do for you but that's just on the the physics level but on a practical level I think valoop can help you do a lot because with valoop you can do tons of uh researches uh local analysis and finding the opportunities that might just be laying around you.

06:00 You can ask valu okay can you go check on Facebook market I'm looking for something maybe a chair that's under $30 and well loop can help you and find the best options and you can upsell them on another website for maybe if another $50 and well loop can actually do the posting for you. So just by finding information and spreading them around and arbitrage uh that could be instantly beneficial to anybody who just want to uh make a couple extra dollars.

06:29 And if you want to go to the extensive ways of how to utilize Valoop and I utilize Valoop to build my current business and it helped me in every in so many different aspects of the business. I think everybody has their different ways but finding what they believe in, finding what they interested in and using some little techniques to start leveraging arbitraring.

06:52 I think that's how people can start can approach value uh with. >> Yeah, I love that. The question I'm asked more than any other question is what business should I start? I've learned to kind of hate that question. No offense to the people that ask it just because it's like we just met and it would be like you asked me Chris who should I marry and I'm like >> who are you Jay like what what are your likes dislikes who do you know like what are your insecurities what are you looking for blonde brunette it's like it

07:23 requires so much context right exactly hint wink wink context it requires so much knowledge and information about that person it's impossible for me to get all that info about a person to know what business they start like even if my best friend were to ask me, I'm not in his heart or in his head, you know, like I'd have a much better idea than a stranger asking me, but I still don't really know.

07:44 And so I published an episode a few months ago that was called something like fi why finding your passion is is garbage advice or why chasing your passion is garbage advice. And the reason is because most people don't know what to start, which is why they're asking me. And so this whole episode was going on and on like look at your search history, look at your YouTube watch history, do an audit of your life, like what do you love?

08:05 What like and it was it was very tactical and practical but also very tedious. It sounds like what you're saying could be all right if I want to make money I first need to know how to make money. If I need to know how to make money, I need to know like what skills, what preferences, what passions I have. To learn that, I need someone getting context, learning me, watching what I do, what I search for, what I type, how I type, how I talk.

08:30 We all waste time, right? And sometimes those things that we waste time on are things that we could start a business around. And if I ask myself, how do I waste time? I might not give myself an honest answer. But if I ask Violoop, it's like, "Dude, you're watching these fishing videos every day for 45 minutes. You should start a fishing business." You know what I'm saying?

08:50 >> I know. It's just like what type of content that you consume. Maybe people just like Pokemon cards. And I believe Pokemon cards are actually great business like fishing too. There must be certain type of fishing point that that is not solved by people. But if you have watched 100 fishing videos, they pro the answer is probably already in the comments and look can help you actually go back to the comments and find out oh what are the p pain points that people are are are itching about and then there's opportunity.

09:20 >> What are some of the most common repetitive tasks that people are having viol do for them? I think uh the most most iconic task uh is invoices because I think that is dealt by almost everybody uh either you're a business owner or you're working in a enterprise uh everybody has all sort of business expenditures that they want to write off all those invoices that they need to track and uh what I do is that I have my Gmail connected to Valu.

09:48 So whenever I receive a new invoice in the email form, valuable will put it down. I will do uh scanning on the uh invoice itself and will fill it up in my uh personal Google sheet. So I have a clear track of everything that I'm looking at over which day I spend, how much money and the attachment is also there uh like saved in the Google sheet. So when it comes to tax season, I have everything prepared.

10:14 I just send this whole thing to my accountant then I'm good to go. uh because I think I believe this is one of the most most common thing that we hear from uh most of our users. >> Yeah. >> And of course emails, excels, all those could be very repetitive task as well. >> What about non-b businessiness owners like just employees or aspiring business owners, how are they using it?

10:38 >> I would say invoicings are still a big chunk of know every every person's life. uh how much I spend at this grocery shop, how much I spend on gas for non-b businessiness operators I think a lot of them comes to content related either they're researching for a certain topic while loop can go through a dozen website uh even LinkedIn even uh those ones that are usually a little bit hard act hard to access for AIS and also go through this website come back with a complete and summed up summary for people to consume and

11:14 also sharing ideas uh from one platform to another. So these are what I would say uh non-b businessiness owners are having a good time experiencing with the product. >> Okay. Now if I were to guess I just talked about what question I get asked the most. If I were to guess what question you get asked the most is one of them like what what can violoop do that you know chat gbd in a browser can't do?

11:39 Like why do I need hardware for this? Yes, I think this is a great question and uh of course I think you have a good hint and that we do get this a lot and uh so I can show you a couple examples and just to start so this is a hardware so you own this and this goes with the user stay with the user and one of our core vision is for every user to have their own memory which is stored here own agent which runs here and own model that they have a personalized ondevice model that is always serving them.

12:17 So that's where we started and with that I can show you a show you a couple examples that I don't believe any of the the AI that you see on the market can do. So first of all this is the memory graph that V loop builds although my is in Chinese but this is the graph that V loop generates while working together with me. As you can see, this is his memory regarding V loop itself.

12:42 And a lot of things are not discussed between me and the agent, but captured while it's watching what's going on on my screen. And Val loop can actually build connections with other entities. Some entities are my colleagues, some entities are my knowledge files, uh some entities are matters that related to bio loop. Users own this context and you own this memory.

13:05 That's for sure. and for the stuff that others cannot do. So for example, now we're looking at a message app and this green box is what indicates the val loop is seeing what I'm seeing on the screen >> and val loop sees that somebody is asking me for my office address and it already drafted the reply for me. All I have to do is so this went away because I didn't confirm but we can do this again.

13:31 Uh so the draft is there at my fingerpoint right now. All I have to do is tap on my keyboard and the address is confirmed and tap. This is good to go. Val loop can do more way more than autocomp completed. For example, we say uh somebody is asking me if I can do a meeting tomorrow at 3 p.m. So again, this green light indicate while loop is seeing what I what I'm seeing and it's captured that oh somebody is asking me uh for a minute and that's a different feature of loop.

14:04 She could be fetching APIs but we can circle back to that and so now I'm looking at a word document and this green line again indicates valu sees what I'm sees and val based on this resume is asking me if I want if I want to see a candidate card if I want to see some interview questions or if I want to see a feat analysis and this is different from document to document now I'm looking at this partnership agreement and valuable against sees what I'm seeing and based on the document valuable is asking or based on

14:34 agreement. I can do a risk summary for you. I can do some key terms for you. I can do negotiation preps for you. I'll say, "Okay, let me do some re summaries." I just press one on my keyboard. And if we go back to the Valoop main app, you are the legal console based on this document below. Let's do uh one page of risk briefs. And so Valup is working on the task already on the background before me tapping or prompting anything because this val is having this live moment with me.

15:07 Whatever I'm doing, Valup actually sees and valu can do certain things for me at that point of time. So this is something I will say I don't believe we have seen this anywhere in the tax industry right now and I believe this is a new way of us interacting with AI uh with uh next generation of technology and I think it should be as simple as what you just saw with V loop.

15:36 >> So if I give Valoop a password or credit card number does it stay on the device >> for that particular question. So, V loop has a dedicated security chip. This chip uh has two features. One feature is that it's like a mini computer that runs yes or yes or no questions. And what what does that mean is that Val will see the agent the the security chip will see the valu agent is doing certain task and certain task is is uh updating this file and the the little computer says yes this can be done and again this computer

16:14 scans or while loop is about to deleting a file or while loop is about to send a file uh send a message to some external users then this little computer little chip uh stops that and ask for user permission. So the second use case for this chip is that the chip has its own vault built inside the chip. So it's somewhere that is stored on the hardware but the agent do not have any access.

16:38 So any password, any API, uh any user information is stored in that chip that neither of uh anybody even if they break the the product and break the chip, they still can't extract the information from that security chip. >> Very cool. So it's like a a governor, right? Or like a police order. >> Yes. It's it's not that smart compared to an AI agent. I mostly run on rule basis but you can think is is observing or is obtaining a low that we that we confirm >> don't for anything that irreversible you need ask users

17:19 permission before yeah uh before pursuing forward so that's uh and also it has a vault the vault saves the most critical and important information >> okay and what is a way mode what can it do in a way mode and why would you use a way mode >> yes So we actually have a we actually have an app and so this app can directly connect to your val loop and you can give val loop instructions even you even you if you are away from your computer and what we see from our beta tester and our early adopters are doing most with a

17:55 away mode is that uh this they are using the time they're away from computer to tackling those long-term longunning tasks. For example, uh we had this uh YouTuber who used a way mode to ask V loop to capture when the upload of a certain video is finished. So he will go back and double check the title, the subtitle, the thumbnail and press publish himself.

18:18 And as a YouTuber, you must know uploading a video could take hours. For creators, exporting a video file or generating a 3D file that takes a long time as well. And the computer usually can just run one one one run task at time. we see people doing is that they ask val to observe uh they leave the desk and ask valuable okay I want you to export this uh this video for me and the task could be 30 minutes and when you finish finishing exporting this one uh let's do the next I have a set prepared for you and so those can

18:53 be done while you're away from a computer you don't have to stop with just one while you can do all those long horizon tasks while the user is away from their computer >> very cool so I could have it. Like I get a ton of DMs every day, hundreds of DMs. Most of them are just not worth responding to. But some of them are like, "Hey, come on my podcast.

19:12 It's really popular." Or or, "Hey, I started a business based on something you talked about. I just wanted you to know like I would like to read that." I could just have it monitoring my DMs and logging them in a Google sheet or something. And then I could use it or a different AI tool to search those and say like, "Find me some highv value DMs." Or is that accurate?

19:33 >> Exactly. That's very accurate. Do you have any data on how much time back in a week it via loop gives to an the average user that's actually using it? >> I think this varies from uh person to person but we ask our early users and we have got a round up which is is approximately two hours per day. So two hours a day that uh translate to almost one working day every week.

19:59 So imagine now we have four working four working days in every week. That could be nice. So what they do is that they have a few uh scheduled task that while loop starts to run before they actually get to work before they actually get to office and they have a few other recaps works uh they can they can do before they actually leave work. So valoop prepares your work before you actually open your laptop and valoop finish the work that you have left or maintain uh watch on the things that you have you have asked to uh

20:31 even during the night so people can have a good night's sleep or maybe just having a time go out with friends. So we are looking at the ballpark is probably around two hours two hours of a day. >> Wow. And what I've noticed with AI is I'll give it things to do to to put time back on my plate and that helps, but mostly it's just enabling me to do a lot more that I would never have had time to do.

20:54 So my 8 hour workday still looks like an 8 hour workday, but I'm getting 16 or 30 hours worth of work done because of all these agents I have running for me. >> I can't agree more because I think that's how my life has been for the past uh for for the past year. But I think we really accomplished a lot of things that we couldn't imagine a couple years ago.

21:15 So this is really empowering the pe people >> who has the idea, who has the drive to build things for them and also saving them time from doing the repetitive task that everybody hates. >> Yeah. What is it still getting wrong? Like where are we still early when it comes to Violoop and devices similar to it? >> So Valoop runs an agentic model right inside the box.

21:37 So this model belongs to the user and the user only. We can help user to upgrade their model but uh from the point of shipping this model is belongs to to the user 100%. So what we seeing is that with this mini age models they're still not as capable as the frontier the open AI the anthropic models but what we are think seeing is that their improvement has been so fast the models that we are running in right boloop if we compare the benchmarks it could compare back to GBD 3.5 even GBD4 and imagine we have all those

22:16 trillion m trillion parameter models now running a palm size sized age device and we are foreseeing drastic improvements in terms of age computing. So the model that ball loop can run in 3 months will be much powerful and stronger uh than what we current currently running and I don't think this process is actually slowing down. So we could experience a couple new models in the next coming year.

22:43 How long does it take when a user is using Violoop religiously? How long does it take for it to really get enough context to actually be helpful? >> If the user is really appreciating Valoop and giving values, more ways to try, then I think it could be very short. It could be just one day to another because Valoop can actually be connected to almost anything.

23:07 your notion, your obsidian, your Salesforce, your Monday, your linear all those uh softwares can be connected in to Valoop and Val look actually help you to build your personal memory and your personal context based on uh connecting with this type of third party services. So if the user is intended to do do to do that and think the process could be really quick a couple hours I think valu can have a a good amount of context and memory and be super helpful to the user already.

23:41 And if the user is not intending to do all those connections I think give it a take maybe three three days to a week that should give Valoop enough materials to start being your partner sitting next to you. after it watches you for a while, is it possible to ask Violoop like, "Hey, you've been watching me work. What can I have you do?" Because a lot of people have trouble coming up with ideas, right?

24:06 What ideas do you have for me based on what you've seen me do? Is that possible? >> It's very possible. And I actually ask that to my val maybe maybe not every day, but every week. uh because although I have a goal that is making this company a great company, but I also have a lot of blank blank spots that thinks that I was not following following up too tightly and Valoop actually helped me go through those blank spots because Val Loop can see that oh on the for the past three days I have never seen anything talked

24:39 about uh launching your uh D2C website. Is that still on your road map? Are you still working on that? Oh, I have have for past two weeks I haven't seen anything regarding Amazon. Are you opening your Amazon uh store uh in the next couple months? Because I think that is very important. So these are the blank spots that Vol actually helped me to capture before myself even not noticed.

25:04 Sometimes I say okay Amazon I probably want to do that maybe next year but it's still a good catchup. If I'm watching this interview a year from now, what do you think Vioop's get going to be able to do then that it can't do today? >> We have done some internal benchmarks. So for the local model for the model that is running inside this little box, you can do agentic task to about uh five to eight steps.

25:29 Uh that's maybe finding the file, go through the file, extract the data, uh move the file, change the file name and send it to somebody. So that's like probably five to six steps. We are expecting the ondevice model can get up to 20 even 30 steps on long agentic workflows which is currently I don't think it is able for 8 billion or less parameter models to do but we are postraining our own uh ondevice model and that is where we heading to.

26:00 So user uh choosing valoop is not just choosing our hardware is also choosing our uh research capabilities, model training cap capabilities and we want to again our I think our core value that we want to give to our users is that user they own their own memory they own their own agent and also they own their own model. So we want to trim better and better models and have them OTAA to everybody's device so they don't have to switch their memory.

26:31 They don't have to stre their harness, but they have a model that is constantly improving with them. >> Okay, that's amazing. It's just be able to do more of what it's already doing like longer steps, more context window. >> Yes. And less cost for the user who's spending on AI and tokens. Uh because we have heard from the the market and our community, people are tired of uh paying all these subscriptions.

26:55 People don't want a $20 bill that comes from 10 different websites or even 20 different websites every month. So that is one of our core goal. How to help our users to get the most frontier intelligence into our product while spending the less amount of money on subscriptions or token usage. So this is how we trying to balance uh having a local model with the user protects pro protects the privacy of the user uh and also help the user to save uh token spendings on uh to the clouds and I think uh that is where we are

27:34 heading to. >> What's an example of a a really impressive workflow that uses multiple different apps that it can run today? >> So we actually post that in one of our videos. What it did is that Val look saw that I have an incoming email that uh somebody sent me an email uh asking for 100 V loop units in a quotation uh because there are reseller in I think Canada.

27:58 What valu did is that it saw the email. It asked me for my permission uh asking if it should help me build a quotation for me. I said yes. Then actually went to my Google sheet, puts the latest number and the discount for uh resellers and it then went back to my quickbook and started building a proper quotation in PDFs. Then it generated PDF. It downloaded the PDF and it pasted back to the email and provided me with a draft.

28:30 All left for me to do is just request set. then the deal is actually closed and val actually helps me following up that order. This is from email to to Google sheet uh to quickbook then back to email. V loop can help me actually help me complete the whole uh circle or close the whole business loop. >> What are some workflows that you could directly correlate to making money?

28:53 That was one, right? But to someone that doesn't already have a business or doesn't already have a 100 units of something to sell, are people using it for cold outreach, direct outreach, sales and marketing, etc. >> I have a couple very good examples, but that do require having a little bit scale. But I think what Val can help anybody, anybody can just use to start on anything that they like.

29:18 For example, I I don't know anything about making money. I have no ideas, but how about putting out a couple websites just to see which one people likes? I can do a personal website that I can design for artists. I can do a second uh hand sale website where I get my stock from Facebook second mark marketplace >> and all I have to do is just to brand those websites, post them on my social media, have my family and friends to see and maybe I can find a business there.

29:50 And because the cost of building such front end website and also having things that can be linked to the website, the cost for building this type of storefront, electronic storefront has gone to basically zero or maybe just a couple dollars. And you can anybody can host that on a public internet and you can just share among your friends, your WhatsApp group, your Telegram group, your own social media.

30:15 And if one thing doesn't work, then try another. No one is stopping anybody from doing maybe 10 trials at any time and maybe one of them just clicks. And I've seen many people uh from my background who's maybe engineers and what they do is that they find nice GitHub repos and they build a nicer front end for the app for the service and change the language and sell them to Japan and sell them to Kore Korea and sell them to Vietnam because people there are not exposed to this type of technology yet and you can do

30:51 subscription charges $10 a month, $20 a month And uh some are really making a good living out of them. Those digital nomads is spending their days in Bali. Many are are doing this. So I think if somebody who is starting from zero, I think the most the best advice could be that just trying a couple things first and maybe one thing it will click. It will give you positive feedback and then you can build upon on those.

31:18 Val is actually very good at marketing. We are spending quite some money on Google, on Facebook, on X uh doing ads. And what Valoop is very good at doing is that it can help me build a nice clear tracking dashboard that I can see how every of my uh channel is working for me. I can see the the the views, the exposures, the CPAs, the CTRs for every of my ad.

31:45 Right now I have like maybe 200 300 ads running on on on meta and there's no way I personally track how much each ad is doing is generating the cost of every click or or every conversion. Uh but Value is very good with this data related stuff and you can put data from all sort of incoming sources and put them into a very nice tracking and help you analyze.

32:12 Okay, this few asset is not performing well. We should cut them. Valu can help me generate another couple pictures or even another couple videos that swap them back that have a new set of creative to test with maybe a new set of demographic. >> Beautiful. Jay, is there anything that I should have asked you that I didn't or anything you want to touch on before we wrap this up?

32:36 >> Valoop uses hardware access one type-C cable to connect to your computer and stream video from your computer to Val Loop itself. And so your screen, your raw image, your video is never shared to the cloud. Every analysis and processing is done inside the box. So you don't have to worry about your privacy being shared to any cloud service provider, not the labs, not uh AWS.

32:59 Also, Woop is building this memory graph entirely for you and stored in the box. So this is what we mean by your memory, your agent and your model. And Valve has this dedicated security chip that will stop anything from any irreversible stuff that could potentially harm uh your computer. It checks my calendar and uh for 4pm works and available can actually help me generate a meeting calendar as well on a daily basis.

33:29 This saves me quite quite a lot of time. >> That's amazing. I can't believe the future that we're already living in. They say that you know the future is already here. It's just unevenly distributed. And that's what this feels like to me. Jay, thank you. Uh, your product's awesome. I'm a user myself. You can see it in the background. Where can we learn more about Violoop or about Jay?

33:49 >> So, our website is at violoop.ai and we'll be launching on Kickstarter September 15th. If you see it before September 15th, you can put down $10 deposit at our website and you can enjoy extra rewards and extra cash back. And if you see us on Kickstarter, don't wait because our price might be going up. uh this is the 399 will be the the lowest that we will be ever offering to the market and when come to retail I think our price will be set at 699.

34:15 So please uh do support us on Kickstarter and we are very excited. We will be making more contents uh to our community as well. So please follow us. >> Beautiful. Thank you Jay. Go check out their Kickstarter and uh we'll see you later. >> All right. Thank you, Chris.