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The Ocean Company - Ulysses | a16z American Dynamism Transcript, AI Summary & Key Points

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00:06 To a surprising extent, the sea has remained a mystery. 10,000 fleets still sweep over it in vain. We know less of the oceans of our feet where we came from than we do of the sky above our head. It is time to change this, to use to the full our powerful new instruments of oceanic exploration to drive back the frontiers of the unknown in the waters which encircle our globe.

00:31 [music] We started Ulyses 3 years ago in the effort to build underwater robots to solve a very specific problem. [music] We wanted to massively scale up underwater ecosystem restoration. But in doing that and going after that problem, we realized that there is a lot more than underwater ecosystem restoration that needs to be scaled up. Work underwater being expensive or difficult was a limiting factor and not only applications in nature in offshore industry and in [music] defense too.

01:19 E AI super cycle is increasing demand for subc cables. It's increasing demand for critical minerals. It's increasing demand for energy. These are all things which the ocean is a primary [music] resource for. There's going to be robots that operate in and manage every domain 10 [music] to 15 years from now. You see it already happening on land with self-driving cars and in the [music] air with delivery drones and things like that.

01:45 We're the ones building the robots for the ocean. >> We're already [music] pretty much supply limited instead of demand limited, which is a good problem to have. The demand hasn't been constrained to one domain like defense or commercial crowd. Both sides honestly, people can't [music] seem to get enough. There are so many people chomping at the bit to have vehicles [music] that are reliable come in at a cost that's low enough that they can get them at a meaningful scale and capable enough to [music] actually do the

02:11 things that matter in the ocean. All >> right. So this tenuous ceasefire in the Middle East negotiations have largely centered on that crucial shipping point, the straight of Hormuz. Today was an exercise in messaging whiplash about whether or not the straight was actually open. Is there any way to be sure those mines have been removed? Well, yes. According to an American technology company, the company is called Ulysus, and it says it's created drones that not only can detect these mines, but more importantly can

02:45 disarm them. >> There's so many things [music] changing in the oceans a lot due to this new order of geopolitics that we're seeing coming out. Whether it's mines being placed in the straight of Hormuz and Iran [music] being unable to find them again or threats on the Babel Manda or tapping of undersea cables or oil pipelines getting exploded. But this isn't anything new for people that have been working on the sea for years.

03:10 The nature of warfare is fundamentally changing. It's becoming more distributed, more autonomous, [music] less centralized. And the investments that the United States military has made in exquisite systems over the last 50 years, while they have been important, [music] they are simply not sufficient to fight the conflicts of the future. [music] >> There's so many things that are happening in the ocean that often enough go unnoticed.

03:33 But now, [music] because they're, you know, raising oil prices, they're actually getting noticed in the news. The sea is starting to get its time in the sun, you could say. Warfare is trending increasingly asymmetric where small cheap things can be used to take out very high value assets. This is what we saw in Ukraine. This is going to happen in the ocean.

03:56 You need to make things cheaper. You need drones. You need unmanned systems. The maritime domain is just becoming more and more important. Jamie was [music] walking with one of his friends who was doing seaggrass restoration and this was off the coast of Scotland. [music] So you can imagine stormy weather, horrible rain, everything. And essentially the process for doing seaggrass restoration is you pick up [music] a handful of seeds and chuck them off the side of a boat.

04:26 The initial kind of nugget of a thought there was that we could mechanize this. So we started out the company by building these attachments [music] that were meant to go down and plant seaggrass. We looked at the [music] price of these vehicles online and it was just ridiculous compared to the cost of the stuff that we were making. It was multiple orders of magnitude higher and it just wasn't feasible for us to [music] use an offthe-shelf unmanned underwater vehicle.

04:52 So that's when Jamie and his drone background came in. Testing in the water is a challenging environment for robots, [music] specifically seawater. It wants to destroy anything robotic and it's corrosive. We immediately [music] discovered that operating in the ocean works very very differently. The ocean is always trying to kill you and flood whatever you put inside it.

05:14 On the mechanical side of the house, we've brought machining [music] inhouse specifically so that we can design something, make it the next day and see if it works. We have had a lot of customer input that the modularity is important to them [music] and what it enables is that they can add the sensors they want. They can configure in the field to add more battery or more skewability with extra thrusters etc.

05:34 Each one of our modules has a standardized interface. We have two power pins here and a data connector here. Every single module has that load out so they can all connect together. They're all getting full battery voltage and full data connection across the entire vehicle. every single connection is standardized. If we want to go down and survey something um with the multi-beam echo sender or sonar systems, uh we can just strap those to the front of it and have that capability within 20 minutes.

06:04 That's the beauty of the modular system. Real world data is always better and always more accurate than [music] any sort of simulation you can do. When going into space, it's a lot harder to access space [music] and just go up to test and get your real world space data. It's not the case with the ocean. You know, most of the planet [music] is covered with it.

06:24 So, we have this advantage where if we can get something that's ready to go in the water, we [music] can get the best possible feedback to iterate on. We want to actually [music] fundamentally change how things are done in the ocean. And that requires us to look at the underwater [music] ecosystem an entirely different way. The broader vision of what we're doing is that you have a network of surface and undersea vehicles and they're operating 24/7 to solve these critical tasks all around the ocean.

07:18 They become fixed infrastructure in the ocean in the same way we've just accepted that there is satellites above our heads. [music] And that's where we want to push the ocean towards really don't know why it is that [music] all of us are so committed to the sea except I think it's because we all came from the sea. And it is an interesting biological [music] fact that all of us have in our veins the exact same percentage of salt in our blood that exists in the ocean.

07:55 >> By and large, our ocean is still [music] a mystery. If Ulyses is successful, we explore, understand, and protect this last great frontier. >> Future of maritime is fleets. fleets that are operating everywhere all at once. [music] >> We like to use the moniker the ocean company sometimes because where we want to be in 5 10 years is a company that is synonymous with the ocean in the way that SpaceX is synonymous with space.

08:25 We want to be the technology company that fulfilling its vision completely rethinks how [music] we can act with the ocean and enables humanity to get a lot more out of this resource and to give a lot more back to it. >> [music] [music] >> Heat. Heat. [music] [music] >> [music] [music]

🧠 AI Summary

Ulyses is building affordable, reliable, modular underwater and surface robots to scale ocean ecosystem restoration and support offshore industry, energy, critical-mineral, cable, and defense operations. Ocean work is expensive and difficult, while demand for capable unmanned vehicles is already supply-limited. The company envisions autonomous fleets operating 24/7 as fixed infrastructure across the ocean, transforming maritime work through cheaper, distributed, and modular robotic systems.

🔑 Key Points

  • Ulyses began by developing underwater robots to massively scale underwater ecosystem restoration.
  • The high cost and difficulty of underwater work limits applications across nature restoration, offshore industry, and defense.
  • Demand for reliable, capable, and affordable underwater vehicles is supply-limited across both commercial and defense markets.
  • Distributed, autonomous, and lower-cost unmanned systems are becoming increasingly important in maritime warfare.
  • Ulyses builds modular vehicles with standardized power and data interfaces, allowing customers to add sensors, batteries, and thrusters.
  • Real-world ocean testing provides rapid feedback for robot iteration because the ocean is broadly accessible compared with space.
  • The company envisions networks of surface and undersea vehicles operating 24/7 as fixed ocean infrastructure.
  • Ulyses aims to become synonymous with the ocean in the way SpaceX is synonymous with space.

✅ Actionable items

  • Mechanize seagrass restoration by developing underwater attachments that plant seagrass.
  • Bring machining in-house to design, manufacture, and test robotic components rapidly.
  • Use standardized module interfaces so vehicles can be configured with additional sensors, batteries, or thrusters in the field.
  • Attach multi-beam echo sounders or sonar systems to the front of a vehicle to enable survey missions.
  • Test robotic systems in real ocean environments to obtain feedback for iteration.

💡 Business ideas

Affordable underwater robots for ecosystem restoration10:10

Replace manual seagrass-seed deployment from boats with mechanized underwater planting systems.

For
Underwater ecosystem restoration operators
Solves
Seagrass restoration is labor-intensive and difficult to perform in stormy ocean conditions, while existing underwater vehicles are too expensive.
Validate by
Test robotic attachments and vehicles in real ocean environments and iterate using field data.
  • Underwater seagrass-planting attachments
Configurable unmanned ocean vehicles for commercial and defense missions02:01

Provide reliable vehicles that customers can adapt with mission-specific modules and sensors.

For
Commercial and defense ocean customers
Solves
Existing underwater work is expensive and difficult, and customers need capable vehicles at a cost that supports meaningful scale.
Validate by
Use customer input on modularity and validate configurations through in-water testing.
  • Vehicles configured with sonar systems
  • Vehicles with additional batteries or thrusters

🏗️ Business models

Modular ocean robotics platform05:24

Build and deploy configurable underwater and surface vehicles that support multiple ocean applications.

  1. Develop a common robotic vehicle platform.
  2. Use standardized power and data interfaces across modules.
  3. Configure vehicles with mission-specific sensors, batteries, and thrusters.
  4. Deploy fleets for restoration, surveying, industry, and defense tasks.
  • Seagrass planting attachments
  • Multi-beam echo sounder or sonar modules
  • Surface and undersea vehicle fleets

📣 Marketing

Branding

  • Use the moniker "the ocean company" to express the ambition of becoming synonymous with the ocean.

🧭 Frameworks

Modular vehicle architecture05:34
  1. Give every module a standardized interface.
  2. Provide shared battery voltage and data connectivity across the vehicle.
  3. Add mission-specific modules in the field.
  4. Configure the vehicle for surveying or other tasks.

🧰 Tools & AI usage

  • Machining — Produce and iterate on robotic components in-house.05:16
  • Multi-beam echo sounder — Survey underwater environments when attached to a vehicle.05:54
  • Sonar systems — Provide underwater surveying capability when added as a vehicle module.05:54
  • Underwater robots — Perform ecosystem restoration and other ocean tasks.00:47

📊 Numbers mentioned

Costs

  • Off-the-shelf unmanned underwater vehicles were described as multiple orders of magnitude more expensive than the company's restoration equipment.

Growth

  • Ulyses was started 3 years before the recording.
  • Robots are expected to operate in and manage every domain 10 to 15 years from the recording.
  • The company wants to become synonymous with the ocean in 5 10 years.

⚖️ Advantages, risks & lessons

Advantages

  • Ocean testing provides accessible real-world data for rapid iteration.
  • In-house machining enables next-day design and manufacturing cycles.
  • Modularity allows customers to configure vehicles for different missions.
  • Standardized interfaces enable sensors, batteries, and thrusters to be added in the field.
  • Lower-cost unmanned systems fit the trend toward distributed and asymmetric maritime operations.

Risks

  • Seawater is corrosive and can flood or destroy robotic systems.
  • Underwater operations are expensive and difficult.
  • Existing exquisite military systems may be insufficient for future conflicts.
  • The company must build vehicles that are simultaneously reliable, affordable, and capable.

Lessons

  • A narrowly defined restoration problem can reveal broader opportunities across an entire domain.
  • Customer feedback can identify platform capabilities such as modularity.
  • Real-world environmental testing can produce better iteration data than simulation alone.
  • Lower-cost autonomous systems are increasingly important in distributed maritime operations.

💬 Quotes

The ocean is always trying to kill you and flood whatever you put inside it.

Summarizes the central engineering challenge of operating robots in seawater.05:11

Future of maritime is fleets. fleets that are operating everywhere all at once.

States the company's vision for autonomous maritime operations.08:12

👤 People & companies

Jamie

A person whose seagrass-restoration experience helped inspire Ulyses's mechanized restoration approach.

10:10
Ulyses

Ocean robotics company building modular underwater and surface vehicles for restoration, industry, and defense applications.

00:47
SpaceX

Used as a comparison for Ulyses's ambition to become synonymous with the ocean.

08:17