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Chris Koerner on The Koerner Office Podcast · Jun 28, 2026 · Education · 01:36 · EN

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00:00 monthly recurring revenue exceeded any salary that I had up until this point. >> Yeah. >> My company that I was working with laid off 20% of its employees [music] unannounced. And so, we had a decision to make at that point cuz we have families [music] and households that we're taking care of. It was either going to be going out and finding a job. I had done that and somebody else's poor financial decisions put my family in a vulnerable position or I was going to go make it happen myself.

00:24 We said yes to anything. We were saying yes to design work and then outsourcing it, marketing work and outsourcing it. We kind of just said yes to the [music] whole scope and the whole range of things. >> I like to say say yes to everything until you can afford not to. >> Many [music] customers coming to us since then saying Chat GPT sent me or I was chatting with Claude and they sent me your way.

00:43 [music] We just now started running Google Ads after we crossed 10,000. It's [music] >> super inspiring that you guys both were effectively knocked out on your butt, right? Lost your job, company went [music] bankrupt, and rock bottom can be a very powerful thing. I think most people, not all, but the vast majority of people will not do what they need to do with their life until they're at their own personal [music] rock bottom, which looks different to everyone.

01:06 Some people's rock bottom might be sitting in a federal prison. Some people's rock bottom might be [music] they didn't get the promotion they needed for that year. It looks completely different, but when we hit that rock bottom, only then are most of us able to truly just grab life by the horns and make [music] exactly what we want of it. >> Okay, so what's the playbook that people can implement if they're not technical to start a pure software as a service business?

🧠 AI Summary

After an unexpected layoff affecting 20% of a company’s employees and another company going bankrupt, two people chose entrepreneurship. They accepted a broad range of design and marketing work, outsourced delivery, and grew monthly recurring revenue beyond their previous salaries. Customers began arriving through ChatGPT and Claude recommendations, while Google Ads started only after crossing 10,000. The episode introduces a playbook for starting a software-as-a-service business without technical skills.

🔑 Key Points

  • An unexpected layoff affecting 20% of a company’s employees forced a decision between finding another job and starting a business.
  • The business initially accepted a broad range of design and marketing work and outsourced fulfillment.
  • Monthly recurring revenue exceeded the salaries previously earned.
  • Customers reported being referred by ChatGPT and Claude.
  • Google Ads began after the business crossed 10,000.
  • A nontechnical playbook for starting a pure software-as-a-service business is introduced.

✅ Actionable items

  • Accept a broad range of client work initially and outsource design and marketing fulfillment.
  • Consider delaying Google Ads until the business has crossed 10,000.

🏗️ Business models

Software as a service00:23

A pure software-as-a-service business intended for founders without technical skills.

    Outsourced service delivery00:25

    Accept client work across design and marketing while outsourcing its fulfillment.

    1. Say yes to design work.
    2. Outsource the design work.
    3. Say yes to marketing work.
    4. Outsource the marketing work.
    • Design work
    • Marketing work

    💰 Monetization

    Monthly recurring revenue 00:00

    The business generated recurring revenue that exceeded previous salaries.

      📣 Marketing

      Sales

      • The business accepted a broad range of design and marketing work.

      Customer acquisition

      • Customers came through recommendations from ChatGPT and Claude.
      • Google Ads were started after crossing 10,000.

      🔍 SEO & discoverability

      Other channels

      • Customers reported arriving through ChatGPT and Claude recommendations.
      • Google Ads were used after crossing 10,000.

      🧭 Frameworks

      Say yes to everything until you can afford not to00:35
      1. Accept available work across a broad scope.
      2. Outsource work that is accepted.
      3. Continue until the business can afford to be selective.

      🧰 Tools & AI usage

      • Chat GPT — Referred customers to the company.00:37
      • Claude — Referred customers to the company.00:41
      • Google Ads — Customer acquisition after crossing 10,000.00:45

      AI is used for

      • Customer referral and discovery — ChatGPT and Claude directed customers to the company.00:37

      📊 Numbers mentioned

      Growth

      • Google Ads began after crossing 10,000.

      Revenue

      • Monthly recurring revenue exceeded previous salaries.

      ⚖️ Advantages, risks & lessons

      Advantages

      • Outsourcing allowed the business to accept design and marketing work without personally fulfilling all of it.
      • Reaching a personal rock bottom can motivate decisive action.

      Risks

      • An unexpected layoff created financial vulnerability for families and households.
      • Relying on another company’s financial decisions can put a family in a vulnerable position.

      Lessons

      • A job loss or business failure can become a catalyst for entrepreneurship.
      • Starting with a broad service scope can help generate business before becoming selective.
      • Entrepreneurial turning points differ from person to person.

      💬 Quotes

      I like to say say yes to everything until you can afford not to.